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DJ Pilgrim |
Stepping in the JungleTechno hot seat DJ Pilgrim |
1. Were did you get the name Pilgrim from?
It's funny you should ask as a lot of people have asked
that same question over the years, as a lot of people
seemed to think it has something to do with followers of
the music but in all honesty it is actually my surname. I
came about using the name as I was looking to call myself
something original that would stand out from the rest as a
lot of people were using names that were associated to the
music such as Energy, XTC, LSD and so on, so I thought
well why not use my surname as that's pretty unusual.
2. Who have been your influences within or outside the
rave scene?
Well influences within the rave scene are DJ's that mix
it up, as that comes from my years as a hip hop scratch
DJ. For me anyone can fade one record into the other
whereas for a DJ to get my respect he has to make his set,
sound different to the next DJ whether its in the way of
cuttin, crossfading or doubling up the records, that's why
people on the scene that influence me would be DJ's such
as Hype, Sy, Mickey Finn & Ratty.
3. Your mixing
style is unique, how did you come across the style of
using two records to make the same record sound like a
remix?
This is a specialty I have carried over from my years
as a Hip Hop DJ, amongst others skills I used to have such
as using the crossfader with my nose, arse, elbows, knees
(you name it I used to do it) however with rave music
people don't like to see those kind of things, whereas
with scratch DJing it was more of an exhibition, so I
continue to double up on tracks to create a 'remix style'
so when people hear my sets on a tape, it makes the tune
stand out & sound totally different from the next DJ who
plays the same track, which I find makes it more exciting
to listen to & unpredictable. As I said earlier, anyone
can play a record whereas it's what you can do with it
that makes you different from the rest.
4. Do you remember your first rave?
Well the first outdoor allnight rave that I remember
attending as a punter was Perception which I think was
back in early 1990 either at Long Marston Airfield or
Wisbech (as I went to both but can't remember which was
first). Other than that the first club night was probably
the Hummingbird nightclub in Birmingham as on a Friday
night they used to have a Acid/Hardcore/Rave night and
Saturdays was Shelleys (Stoke On Trent).
5. What
were the illegal parties like back in the early days?
I can only remember going to 2 illegal parties. I went
to a few more but no one could get in, but they were good
times because you would either hear about it by word of
mouth or by flyer which would give you no details other
than a date and a telephone number to ring. The buzz from
going to those parties was wicked as you would all meet up
at a pick up point then you would get a convoy of cars
that would sometimes drive for what seemed like hours, as
sometimes there would be police road blocks so you would
be trying to avoid them, but until you got to the venue
you would have no idea of where you where going which was
part of the excitement even if you didn't make it into the
club you would still have a good night driving round.
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6. What's your opinion on the new digital age? With
CDJ's now a being standard in most clubs?
I suppose you have to move with the times which is good
because it may inspire people to be a bit more creative
like they are in the studio, however I don't know of any
club that has got rid of their turntables yet so it looks
like vinyl is something that will be here for a long time
to come.
7. How did you get involved in the scene,
as you've been DJ'in since day one?
I've been DJ'ing since 1987 when back then, I was a
hip-hop scratch DJ using 2 copies of the same record to do
loads of turntabalism like using my nose, knees or elbows
to work the cross fader and generally scratching the
records up beyond recognition which was one of my
specialties from my Hip Hop years. After a while the music
in hip-hop started to change to slow gangster rap whilst
at the same time the rave scene started to grow. As I got
more used to the rave sound, I liked what I heard as the
music was uplifting, energetic and everyone into the music
seemed so happy, which is what hip-hop used to have so at
that point, that's when I switched over to what is now
known as hardcore.
8. Where was your first booking?
Do you remember who gave you your first break?
I still have the flyer to this very day as it was
called Contageous on 2nd July 1990 at the Lord Raglan club
in Wolverhampton. First big break as a DJ I would say
would have to be Quest as I was just another budding DJ
trying to make a name for myself around 1990-91 and I had
played at a few small events such as Heavon, New World,
Phantasm & Manifestation so I was quite well known around
the Wolverhampton area, plus a lot of my mix tapes were
doing the rounds (as they do) so people knew about my
mixing styles from my hip hop background which is why the
guys from Quest approached me to play at the opening
night.
9. You were resident for the Legendry Quest how did you
come across your residency?
It's quite funny how I became a resident at Quest
because me & a few friends actually approached the club
owners where Quest was held, as we were thinking of doing
a night there ourselves. Not long after approaching the
owners, I gets a call from them saying they're putting on
a night and would like me to play, and that was the
infamous 1st ever Quest night on Saturday 19th September
1991, Palomas, Wolverhampton, with Top Buzz, Rap & myself
(which still sticks in my mind to this very day). From the
success of that opening night the promoters decided to put
on nights on a regular basis so it all happened from
there.)
10. What was it about the Midlands scene
that inspired you?
I think it was the fact that a lot of promoters would
book all the London DJs and there were a lot of events in
the Midlands so on a regular basis you would be playing
alongside them but I thing that inspired myself as well as
other Midland DJs like Ratty to push that bit harder as we
managed to hold our own, even though people always say
that London is more upfront than anywhere else.
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11. Looking back on your career what has been your
favourite booking to date and why?
I played at most of the biggest events in this country
from 1992 onwards, but the one that still sticks in my
mind is the massive Fantazia at Castle Donnington with an
estimated 40,000 people there. I played on the main stage
and there was a drawbridge being used as a stage set,
which the DJ appeared behind. When I came to do my set
about midnight, I will never forget when the drawbridge
dropped, I looked out & just saw a mass of bodies go back
for what looked like miles, & the noise from the crowd was
unbelievable. Also I have many fond memories of club
nights held at Quest as there was no other weekly club
that could match 'the vibe called Quest' with top quality
line ups each week using every big name DJ you could think
of (even Joey Beltram played there). The atmosphere was
unbelievable week in week out & that's why so many people
traveled from all over the country, each week, just to be
a part of that vibe. The venue was perfect as it would
hold close to 1,000 capacity each week, with que's
starting as early as 5:00pm on some nights, & the
promoters put a lot of effort into each week using
attractions like the infamous Quest dancers, fire eaters,
snake charmers, lasers (and this wasn't even an
all-nighter.
12. What was the atmosphere and vibe like back in the
early days in comparison to today?
Well back then the music was uplifting, energetic and
everyone into the music seemed so friendly and there was
always a happy atmosphere as the scene was fresh and
vibrant with excitement of going to a party, meeting up
with other people from all over the country (and it not
breaking out into a fight), not knowing where the party
was going to be held until the very last minute as well as
the DJ's being versatile so you could never tell what they
were going to play. Nowadays it's all to commercialized
and predictable as you know you are going to your local
club and you know what the decors going to be like inside
as well as you know who all the DJ's that will be playing
& half the time you know what they are going to play.
13. Which of the years that you have DJ'ed through do
you enjoy the most and why?
Around about the 1992 - 93 era as they were the best
times for parties in my opinion because there were a lot
of all night parties and the scene was new and probably at
its peak at this point. Some of those I played at were
Quest, Pandemonium, New Age, World Party, New Dawn, Dance
Planet, Helter Skelter, Total Kaos, Infinity, Kinetic,
Bangin Tunes, Dreamscape, Amnesia House, Fibre Optic,
Milwaukee's (Equinox), Dance Nation, Fantazia, Summer
Dance Festival, Vision, Entropy, Obsession, Adrenalin,
Inter Dance, The Edge, Starlight, Heaven On Earth, Zest,
Vibealite, Dance Trance, Reincarnation, Devotion,
Innersense, Fusion, Tribal Gathering, Perception, Phobia,
The Pleasuredome, Frequency, Destiny, Fun-de-mental,
Labrynth, Diehard, Southern Exposure, Rezurection, Asylum
(Bowlers), AWOL, Warehouse (Doncaster), Uprising, The
Drome (Birkenhead), Sutra, Sunrise, Spellbound, Double
Dipped, Origin, Hypnotic, Evolution, Diztruxshion (just to
many to mention).......
14. You were also
Flashback's resident DJ throughout 1999-2004. What was
your favourite Flashback party during your residency?
I have to say a lot of the earlier parties from 99-01
were my favorites as there were a lot of the old faces
from back in the day still knocking around as well as the
old classic tunes had not really been hammered to death at
that point. All the events were a sell out whether it was
The Attic in Hockley or if it was The Que Club, there
would be queues for hours on end full of happy, up for it
people whereas after 2001 it seemed every man and his dog
crept out of the woodwork and started putting on old skool
events and big name DJ's were still playing that same bag
of classics they carried around from the last 3 years.
15. What is your favourite rave music style?
For me it had to be 91-92 as there were so may classic
tunes about that to this very day still get played (even
in house clubs) and still get a really good response, no
matter how many times you hear them.
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16. You and Quest resident Ned Ryder teamed up in'93 to
produce 'Face of the deep' on 'Back to basics' records.
How did that come about?
I thought it would be good if I could make my own music
as back then, not many DJ's were actually producing, and I
had a pretty good idea of what makes a good record. Ned
was a good friend of mine and we hung out a lot together
so we had similar ideas about music, so we approached JB
from Back To Basics as he was a regular attendee down at
Quest and from there we got in the studio
17. You
also co produced 'Can you feel it' which was another
successful track. Do you regret not producing a lot more
material?
I did make a few tracks, some of which never got
released but I did find it quite time consuming so I
focused my efforts on my DJ career (as well as holding
down a day job).
18. Would you consider going back
in the studio to make new / oldskool like Vinyl junkie?
Well I'm not short of offers as I've been asked by
quite a few people (including John 'Vinyl Junkie') but its
something that I haven't quite got round to yet.
19. During the '94/5 drum and bass hardcore split you
decided to go the hardcore route. Why did you stick to
hardcore as apposed to drum and bass?
When I first started playing you could be versatile,
which is good because your music would appeal to a much
wider audience, but around 1993 that's when the scene
started to change for the worst (in my opinion) as some of
the music got very dark & started to attract the moody
element, whereas some of the music was happy & uplifting
which I preferred as the crowds seemed to be friendlier &
well up for a party. At this point I made the decision to
play the happier, uplifting music as I preferred the up
for it crowds but found it quite hard to shake off the
label as a Jungle DJ because were I came from, most of the
clubs in the midlands catered for that style of music.
20. These days your still playing oldskool at many
nights up and down the UK, do you keep tabs on the
different styles of music such as Hardcore or Drum and
Bass?? What do you think of the new sounds in comparison
of yesterday's beats?
As far as the current scene goes I know that drum &
bass has come a long way as it is well recognized,
universally, as with Hardcore I don't really keep up to
date with what goes on there but I still have & always
will have a love for drum & bass and the Old Skool.
21. Apart from oldskool what other styles of music do
you enjoy listening to?
When I'm not listening to old rave tapes I will listen
to any old skool hip hop from 82-87, some of the new hip
hop artists like Jay-Z, scratch mix DJ's like Z-Trip &
Radar, Freestylers music is pretty cool or sinister drum &
bass mixes from the likes of Andy-C, Hype, Nicky
Blackmarket
22. Were would you prefer to DJ at a
muddy field or a club and why?
I would say that out the two I would prefer the big
outdoor, muddy field all night parties as they were less
predictable and more exciting. Saying that I have played
at smaller capacity clubs like Flashback, Illusion &
Absolute Old Skool where the atmosphere there has been
just as electric. Sometimes smaller clubs hold the
atmosphere better as they're a bit more intimate & hold
the atmosphere, but then when you've played at the likes
of Tribal Gathering (Universe) & played to the likes of a
20,000 capacity crowd, the noise from the crowd is just an
unbelievable feeling.
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Top ten tunes (in any order)
1.1ST PROJECT - RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES 2.NEBULA 2 -
SÉANCE 3.TANGO - THE IMPACT EP (CAN'T STOP THE RUSH)
4.M.D.EMM - GET DOWN 5.HACKNEY HARDCORE - DANCEHALL,
DANGEROUS 6.RHYTHM FOR REASON - THE SOLUTION EP (THE
GRAND NATIONAL) 7.DJ SEDUCTION - HARDCORE HEAVEN
8.THE YA, YA'S - LOOOVE (QUADROMANIA MIX) 9.SON'Z OF A
LOOP DA LOOP ERA - LET YOUR MIND BE FREE 10.HUMAN
RESOURCE - DOMINATOR
Cheers for taking time
out to do the interview would you like to give people some
shouts.
In no particular order - Clare & Nathaniel, Alex &
Stacey @ illusion, Marks 1 & Archer (Altern 8), DJ Energy
(original), Glen Aston @ Not Forgotton, Hixxy / HTID, XTC,
Mistress Mo, Ratty, Stu Allen, Vinyl Junkie / Warehouse
Wax, Jason 'Top Buzz' Kaye, Sy, Nicky Blackmarket, Mickey
Finn, Jimmy @ Flashback, Gez & Carl @ Quest, Mike @
Industry Artists, JB & Spice @ Back To Basics, MC's
Connie, Nitro, Juiceman, Bassman, Lennie, Mad P, Magika /
Raveology, Man Parris , Energy, Ranski, Scarlett, Robbie
Dee, Sharkey, Mike @ Obsessed, Danny @ Fibre-Optic ,Grant
@ Slammin Vinyl + any one I've forgot as there are too
many people over the years to mention For bookings
contact Alex @ Excell Artist Management - 07961 561483 or
Mike @ Industry Artists - 07810 471 652
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I'd like to personally thank Pilgrim for taking his
time out to carry out this interview.
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MARCH 2005 |
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Words By Nitesh
JungleTechno / Xtra-C Flashbackin' & Rewindin' |
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